A Different Type Of Comic
March 28th, 2013, 7:37 pm
Average Rating: 4.09
March 28th, 2013, 7:47 pmReply
I suppose if anybody else has got issues they want to bring up, feel free to do so in the comments and I'll respond to them too.
In other news, DarkNut255 has presented me with another fan art piece, giving him a total of six pieces of artwork on that page! Go check it out!
April 30th, 2017, 4:07 amReply
March 28th, 2013, 8:13 pmReply
...Wow. Well, that's one way to talk to the fans. I just muscle on through, chuggin' along at my own pace, doin' my own thing.
Still, it takes a certain type to sprite out all these things and take 'em on, one piece at a time.
March 28th, 2013, 8:53 pmReply
...And the floor was mopped...
Wow, that was... extensive. I must really be blind, 'cuz I haven't noticed any of this stuff. I would really make a horrible critic.frogace55,
March 28th, 2013, 9:43 pmReply
You're comic is awesome
Why everyone a criticSyogren,
March 28th, 2013, 9:57 pmReply
@frogace55: Critics are important. Without them, I'd still be using recolors. You imply that critics are bad.PurpleChickenPineapple,
March 28th, 2013, 10:02 pmReply
@Ultimate Yoshi: Hello, I'm back! Wow it's been so long since I read this comic...
Edit: I drew a picture for you!^^
March 28th, 2013, 10:14 pmReply
I agree with the point of the "Kaxo clone" being too abruptly introduced. There doesn't seem to be anything leading up to it other than "Kaxo did something out of character during the crossover" which, frankly, is something that should be expected.
Also, I'm not sure if it was written this way intentionally to keep Etam in character or something, but his responses come off as pretty rude to Gigi.
March 28th, 2013, 11:32 pmReply
A bad segment?!
But...but...he landed with the force of a thousand pancakes. Some people have no taste. :/Ultimate Yoshi,
March 29th, 2013, 12:35 amReply
BlackHeart the Unbelievable,
Etam was written a bit ruder than I would normally personally act mostly to keep him in character. I meant no offense to Gigi, its just how Etam acts, I suppose.
The introduction of Not-Kaxo was always going to be a sudden appearance, even if the crossover had everybody 100% in character. Its point was that there wasn't much of a buildup at all: it was meant to be sudden and shocking. Maybe the shocking part failed, but it was intended to be sudden. Maybe I could've written it in better, but still.
Okay, I suppose that makes a little bit more sense. Etam really is just kinda nonsensical and doesn't really have a lot of logic around him. However, still, my point still stands. How logical is it that there's a creator who manifests himself in the form of a denizen of his universe and can shape that reality at will? No matter what, any sort of a god-like character is illogical, unless said god-like powers were acquired through means in the comic itself. But still, my point stands. Even if Etam is illogical, what's the harm in having a little nonsense? Not everything needs to make sense. As a wise cartoon once said: "What fun is there in making sense?"
March 29th, 2013, 3:18 amReply
Well, this happened.GummyBears101,
March 29th, 2013, 6:46 amReply
I’m bad at critique, too. I’m also a pretty inexperienced author, and my plots are not very good as well. I find Ulti’s, Gigi’s, BattleStar’s, just to name a few, Kirby comics as inspirations. I think that sudden twists in a plot helps keep readers interested. In the crossover, though, perhaps you should’ve told Gigi to make Kaxo even more violent? I mean, making Kaxo and Larry turn Raven into a piñata, doesn’t seem like something Kaxo wouldn’t do, and he seemed pretty mild in the comic. (Even though it would completely spoil it for Gigi...)Unless, Ulti, you didn't come up with the not-Kaxo idea until after the crossover. I’m still a bit confused about what Jarkes pointed out earlier, that Saia’s ‘has Kaxo not told them about THAT yet’ and the not-Kaxo. But other than that, I don’t find any problems that I find too troubling.Gigi19972010,
March 29th, 2013, 7:57 amReply
...You really needed to make a comic page? It takes much more time to make than typing a PM or a comment, you know. Oh well, while I can see that it's more "original", I still don't get it. Why did you make it like that, anyway?
And I dunno why but I saw this coming, I saw you making something other than just posting a new comic and continuing normally. I don't know if you ever noticed, but some criticism was left out in previous pages, and you never replied to them, so it makes it look like you ignored it. Honestly, I think it's the first time you've replied to criticism which involves your comic 100% (that old review doesn't count).
And yeah, my comment was rude, I know that. When I wrote it, I thought "At this point, I don't care anymore. Maybe if I get on his nerves he'll listen to me. Maybe he will reply to my comment and explain whether he agrees with me or not. Because before, he didn't. If I change my attitude, will he change his?", and I wrote it like that. Yeah, I wrote it rudely on purpose, and I don't even need to mention that it worked. Sure, there were some times ago where I was rude too, but this time I think I really wrote my thoughts.
Ok, about your replies. Here we go:
- I do think Tear in the Fabric was a bad segment, I thought you knew that. I’m obsessed by logic, so what? It’s not because I’m obsessed by it that TitF lacked logic. Some things need logic, like a story. If it doesn’t make any sense, you won’t like it. Sure, there are nonsense stories, where nothing is supposed to make sense, but your comic is clearly supposed to make sense. So making a segment where nothing makes sense goes to a completely different way the comic goes. And yes, this is bad, because every story has a meaning and intention behind it, you can’t just change it once because you want, or else it will look like you don’t even know where you want to reach with your comic. TaterOfTheTot explained my reason for saying that TitF lacked basic logic, but your reply still ignored that it needed basic logic. You never explained how Etam existed in first place, and the reason for having him mess up with the comic before stopping him. Your argument that “Not everything needs logic” won’t convince me, because clearly your comic seems to try to follow a logical plot, the point of this segment doesn’t even exist because of that. And it DOES dig its own grave, because in the very beginning you look at the situation, you look at what happens, and you say “...What? So, the obvious thing is to do that, but nobody does it? What kind of forced plot we have here? Geez, I can see this will be terrible.”. And I never said that I disliked author powers, or else why would I even place Gigi as an author in the first place? The thing is having ANOTHER character with author powers, which doesn’t even make sense like what I explained and what Tater said.
- Lol, I don’t even get why you say that the evil clones aren’t authors. I have a brain, you know. The thing is that, like I said, it also digs its own grave, but obviously not exactly like TitF. You look at the first pages and you say “So, after normal stuff, too suddenly the kirbies are thrown into something completely different. Evil clones, such a cliché thing (and cliché IS bad, if it wasn’t I’d have said “overused”). How am I supposed to not dislike it?”. Sure, it’s only starting, so I can’t say much. When it ends, though, I’ll tell what I thought, but knowing me, I won’t probably change my mind about it.
- So, you want to know about the “weak plot twist”, and you’re going to understand that it IS one. Well, first of all, in a plot twist, the fans expect something to happen, and something other than that, unexpected. happens. Kaxo not being Kaxo was a plot twist, no doubts here. However, what was exactly this plot twist? What were the fans expecting, and what actually happened? The fans were expecting Kaxo to explain the thing Saia mentioned in Part 37, developing his character more. However, instead of developing a character more, Kaxo isn’t Kaxo, too suddenly, too forced and destroying the opportunity of developing a character. Now answer the obvious question: was it a bad thing or a good thing? Instead of making the comic more interesting, it made it less interesting. So explain me now why you think it’s not bad.
- Yes, having a comic completely change its course is indeed bad. Because everything which doesn’t follow the first course the comic had will seem forced, and because the author will never be able to do in the same quality the little stories which doesn’t follow the first intention of the comic. In my view, the segments where you make things happen somewhat like the first ones are the best ones. Yes, I’d rather if this comic followed the track of the first 100 comics, I just don’t see you doing good things involving drama, suspense and a complex plot, like you’re trying to do.
Waiting for your reply. Just don’t make it a comic again. And don’t hate me, I’m trying to help you, I am not even sure anymore if I’m being rude at this point.
March 29th, 2013, 9:02 amReply
I'm noticing a lot of whys on this page. To which I say: WHY NOT!? Making sense one hundred percent of the time is boring. And you aren't supposed to understand everything right away; if you did, the comic would last what, ten pages?Firecat1311,
March 29th, 2013, 9:04 amReply
@Ultimate Yoshi: Okay, I see, thanks for clearing that up
@Syogren: The point is that in most stories stories, plot twists will have some sort of build up, and when they happen it should leave the reader surprised, thinking "whoah, I can't believe I didn't see this coming...!" (or something along those lines), whereas the argument is that the plot twists are leaving lots of people thinking "...what?", because they don't make enough sense.
March 29th, 2013, 9:10 amReply
Well, that's one way of responding to criticism. And thanks, this clears a lot of things up.The Legendary Sky Kirby (Guest),
March 29th, 2013, 10:36 amReply
A Temporary Absence
@All: This comic disappointed me because of the "criticisms/complaints" and my least favorite character, Ybrik Etamitlu (aka Etam), showed up.
@Ultimate Kirby: I'm NEVER going to read ANY of YOUR comics AGAIN for 5 years time! GOT THAT?!
March 29th, 2013, 10:49 amReply
Honestly, The clone Kaxo should have been introduced more smoothly. I know you talked about this before, but it still isn't right. I know you're probably stressed out with all this negative feedback, I know how it feels sometimes. However, it really should have some work onto it. First of all as I previously mentioned, Kaxo wasn't any more violent than ever before. He acted normally, as a matter of a fact, he acted NICER than usual! Remember in the Older Crossover with Kirby's Dream Adventure? Kaxo committed murder, and THAT isn't violent, Yet, spraying paint on someone's face and hanging them upside down is 'More violent than usual.' as stated previously. You should have extended it so it. You easily could have made three or four comics where Kaxo really is far more violent. Maybe, say, hurting is friends more often? maybe trying to say, kill them? Secondly, Gigi's author appearances don't entirely have one segment. They usually just explain something that may be confusing, or will say something about the Fan/comic count. Simple and quick Author appearances make it quick and simple to explain something, and then anything extra would be added in the comments. You had an entire segment that basically circled around your author appearance and your unexplained clone appearance, then added the lack of logic with the red of it. Chaos can be nice, but not if it has a LITTLE bit of logic behind it. Etam IS a very nice character. It's nice to show you have some imagination. It's only that Etam has no logical backstory. And the entire segment lacks any logic at all. Essentially, you could've just instantly gotten rid of Etam, as Firecat said. Therefor, the entire segment is literally just trash at that point. Not only that, but Ulti as an author character could have also fixed any of the characters and their behavior issues created by Etam. Also, just because it's an evil clone, doesn't mean you should rip it out of 'Ultimate' and flip it, since Ulti is really just a nickname, right? It's really unoriginal. I don't always have the most original names either, but still. Just flipping a part of your name isn't really that good of an idea. Really, you should put more thought into the comics that you start to make. Sorry if this stressed you out, as I'm really only trying to give you some advice. Then again, half the comments I put on here are either ignored or deleted by you, so I don't know why I took the time to write this all out. Sorry if I wasted your time as usual :l.Ultimate Yoshi,
March 29th, 2013, 11:37 amReply
Like I said, the point of this plot twist was that it was supposed to be sudden, and almost random, in a way. The only reason I made the cloned character Kaxo was to explain more easily why there were a few characterization errors during the crossover. The thing that Saia said will be addressed soon, too. I wouldn't just bring that up to have it be shot down by Not-Kaxo, as much as Jarkes thought I was doing earlier.
@The Legendary Sky Kirby (Guest):
Well, gee, thanks.
Okay, yeah, y'know what? You're right, this whole plot twist could've been done better. See, at the same time, I was almost a bit rushed to have this in. I knew where I wanted to have Master Of Puppets start out, and I only had a few comics to get me there. The most I can do about it now is look at it and think about how I could've made it work better. I absolutely refuse to change older comics, though, unless there are very special circumstances, such as the earlier crossover page with Grace's puppy-eyes. It's just a personal thing, to me.
Alright, stop acting like you know my characters better than myself. Kaxo WAS acting a bit more violent than usual, and even Gigi agreed with me after I talked with her about it. I REALLY don't want to have to do all that again, so just trust me when I say that Kaxo was acting a bit out-of-character, regardless of anything else that's happened in other crossovers.
Here's one very important thing to note that I actually didn't bring up in the above comic: Tear In The Fabric had one original purpose. It was only meant to be a joke segment. It was a way for me to let loose and have some completely random fun, then make everything normal again at the end. Heck, the entire segment can be looked at as non-canon if need be, since nothing changes except for Epic Yarn has happened. If I had wanted to give characters like Etam a logical backstory, I'm sure I could have done so. But I wasn't actually TRYING to. Yeah, he is totally illogical, and I see your point about his backstory. But really, if you don't like the logical errors, can't you look past that at least? I mean, I've learned my mistakes by now, and that's the only segment that was going to be like that. Even though I had Etam poke a little fun about Gigi's love for logic in the comic above, I do agree that logic IS necessary a lot of the time. Even so, a lack of logic can still be entertaining. Since apparently it wasn't, I just kinda wish Tear In The Fabric never happened at all, since it's STILL getting negative responses like this. Kind of like a hangover or something.
Putting more thought into the comics is definitely a good thing, but I don't think you can rightly say that I need to do it more when I only DIDN'T do it for one segment that will never happen again.
I made the comic page for a few reasons. One, it was a nice way of putting all the problems in one place, as well as allowing anyone else with problems to put them in the comments. Two, a private message would be, well, private. If anybody else had these same complaints, at least now they were answered. Three, its a very easy place to see the answers.
To be perfectly honest, I wasn't aware that I have ignored any other criticisms, so I must have just missed them. If you could point them out to me, I'd be grateful.
While that may have worked this time, Gigi, I would highly recommend against being rude to get someone's attention in the future. It oftentimes does NOT work out favorably.
When you say "every story has a meaning or intention behind it", you're forgetting my actual intentions behind it. HAVING FUN. Yes, it was illogical, yes, it wasn't a very great segment in retrospect. But seriously, I wish people could look past the logical errors and see TitF for what it was trying to be: just a way for me to have a bit of fun with the comic without any consequences in the actual story.
I didn't say that the evil clones were not authors. All I said was "What's happening in MoP is nothing like Etam in TitF". YOU were the one comparing what happened with Etam to what was happening with the clones, and I just said that they weren't the same. I wasn't saying that you were stupid.
Look, I'll say it again. If something is cliché, that does NOT automatically make it bad. Yes, I agree, oftentimes it does turn out to be bad. But, seriously, not always.
Okay, yeah... you're right with the part about the plot twist being weak. Kudos to you for making me change my mind, but I kinda wish you had elaborated earlier so that I didn't think past me was stupid.
However, I don't think it makes the comic LESS interesting, it just doesn't make it more interesting.
...I... uh... I really don't know what to say about the last part. I'm sorry, but the way you're wording all this... you sound like you think everything that's not a silly and random segment is downright terrible. You're basically saying to me this: "Oh, Ulti, all these more complex stories that you're writing? You're not making them good, go back to segments like To The Tower." I mean, its fine if you like those segments me, heck, I still think To The Tower is one of my best segments. But you're almost saying that anything else is a really bad segment that you hate. I mean, that's probably not the case, but its the message that I'm getting from it.
March 29th, 2013, 12:30 pmReply
Was that "dig" thing in panel 18 intentional?Gigi19972010,
March 29th, 2013, 1:58 pmReply
- Ok, I suppose.
- Well, as far as I can remember, they are either outdated by now, either were clarified after all this.
- I'm aware of that (you actually have no idea at all of how much aware I am), that's why I was rude only in that comment; I used that as a "last resort", also because I knew you wouldn't be childish to say something like "OMG you were rude to me!!!! I hate you forever now!!!!".
- Your intentions of making TitF were very clear, but the thing itself doesn't look alright even if you look at it taking that fact into consideration. It's still, you know... "Useless".
- "The clones are there for a reason, they're not authors at all". Well, that implies that I thought they were authors, doesn't it? And I compared the WAY it was happening, not the plot, like the "dig its own grave" thing. I never said you said I was stupid, but it sounded that way.
- Still, my intention was to show I find that bad. But obviously, that my opinion when I mean it's bad, it's just that I only use the word cliché when referring to something I find bad, or else I use the word "overused".
- Well, I wasn't really sure if it was really a good thing to elaborate it since the beginning. To think of it now, it's mostly because I typed that comment in school, on my iPod and at that time I wasn't feeling like explaining. Blame me for that.
- It sounded like that? I just wanted to say that between doing something more serious and more silly, you seem to work better on the silly things. But maybe that's just me. I'm not saying that I hate everything in your comic which isn't silly, I'm saying that I find out the silly parts better, but as I can tell you're leading your comic to something more serious. And I'm getting the feeling you're going to the wrong direction. You can balance the seriousness and the silliness, but sometimes I feel like you completely forget about the silliness. Trust me, you're good with randomness and humor, something I'm not good at, I'm just missing it from this comic. I think the last time it happened was the first half of Jetting Across The Ice, not counting the crossover, since you weren't thinking of making it that time. Sure, like I said, maybe it's just me, but that's what I think.
March 29th, 2013, 4:55 pmReply
Y'know, I just thought if this, but does anybody here remember A Kirby Komic? the comic ended because of an "evil opposite of the author" character. How exactly is that so much different from what Ulti did in TiTF?Jarkes,
March 29th, 2013, 8:43 pmReply
For what it's worth, I actually did like Tear in the Fabric because of its lack of logic. Etam kind of reminded me of Discord and other characters like him.GummyBears101,
March 30th, 2013, 5:12 amReply
@Ultimate Yoshi: Ok, I get it. So they are two seperate different events.
Air Man1 21,
Also, I think that we should give UY a break. No one likes their comics to be filled to the top with criticisms and stinging comments. Everyone is pretty much adding on to Gigi and Jarkes’s crits, and we have seem to have made our point.
March 30th, 2013, 2:28 pmReply
-The problems with TitF aren't a lack of logic with Etam, but with Ulti. Since Ulti is Etam's more logical opposite, it would have been better if he was trying harder to fix a breaking comic than illogically catching the one who broke it. A lot of Ulti's actions weren't well explained or necessary, and it would have been better if he hadn't fought Etam with an unexplained Kabuki Shat'l and fix-it-all dragon tank. Etam's illogical personality didn't seem to contrast well enough with Ulti's, and had Ulti acted more like Gigi, than the segment would have worked flawlessly. I feel that by cutting the segment short due to it being unpopular was what hurt it the most. In rushing to end it, the joke was killed in the process. What could have been explained in a hilarious run-around with Ulti trying to fix all the things Etam broke was instead quickly replaced with a conclusion before its time. Since it was YOUR attempt to have some fun with the comic you can't expect use to understand everything. It was a joke for yourself and you shouldn't have expect us to get and enjoy it from the beginning, especially Etam is intentionally insulting the fans. Etam making the fans mad was to be expected and cutting it short removed the possibility of us getting the joke. You threw away a villain just because we got mad at it. It was your time to have fun and you shouldn't have taken the criticism personally. Cutting the segment short because we weren't getting a joke not meant for us was probably the most illogical part about it. You got us worked up for a great segment, but ended it too soon. You should've fleshed the segment out more, and ignored Etam's criticism.Torkirby,
March 30th, 2013, 3:39 pmReply
I feel like I should give my two cents on all of this craziness. First of all, since I don't think I've ever commented on a single page of this comic until now, here's a bit of my background regarding myself and Kirby Adventure...
I've been close friends with Ulti for around two and a half years, and we talk and hang out in our Skype chat pretty much every day. He's talked to me about his comic, I've given him feedback on stuff...if I don't wanna be the modest type, I'd say that I've been sort of an 'adviser' of Kirby Adventure, to a certain extent. I've read through the entire comic sans From Dream Adventures, and I'm currently in the process of reading it again, including the segment I skipped. I'm also personally experienced with comic-making, as I've been doing so for over a decade, I'm studying in digital media and comic-making in college, and heck, I'm even in the process of making a professional-styled Kirby comic of my own.
From what I'm getting at from reading these comments, there's a whole lot of arguments on what's nonsensical and cliche. Now, I haven't delved deep within these arguments, so I don't know what's been addressed, so forgive me if I'm repeating what others have said.
I remember Ulti stating that Tear in the Fabric was meant to be a "breather" segment. Lots of major plot points and stuff happened before the segment, so lots of work had to be done. In return, Ulti decided to make a segment he can have fun with; he wanted to go back to the time of Average Days and just have a laid-back segment for everyone to enjoy. He wanted to do something in this segment that he couldn't really do anywhere else in the story, and what better way to do that than to just completely mess with everyone for the fun of it? One thing I know about sprite comics is that you can have a lot of "author powers" you wouldn't normally find in actual comics, and to me that element has a certain charm in it. I like the idea of having a manifestation of the author suddenly come into the comic as and interacting with the characters. I like the idea of having a horribly wrong 'evil' side of the author and the actual author going all out at each other with their actions affecting the world of the comic.
The way I see it, Tear in the Fabric was meant to be this segment to be seen through the author's perspective. Etam was meant to be represented as Ulti's actual more nonsensical and crazy side, but regular Ulti can't have that side messing with a comic like that! Tear in the Fabric showed what it would be like if that were to happen. It's a fun segment, not to be taken very seriously, and there's a reason why there aren't any major plot points in it. It's able to be skipped without feeling bad if one doesn't like it.
As for this whole evil clone thing presented to us in Master of Puppets...
Yes, 'evil clones' is considered a cliche; I'm guilty of using the idea way back in one of my earliest Kirby comics as well. Maybe Ulti could have left the 'evil' status with a little more ambiguity, but it's still insanely early to be the judge of how this segment will turn out. A lot of people seem like they're saying "WELP, EVIL CLONES. THIS HAS NO WAY OF EVER TURNING OUT GOOD IN ANY WAY. THE COMIC'S RUINED." But what's your reasoning behind this? Just because the trope is considered cliche? There are plenty of instances where an author can use certain tropes and elements in such a creative way, practically turning them into their own 'thing.' If I know Ulti, he knows his story elements and what's considered cliche, so I think it's interesting for him to start off with something like this. He hasn't been talking about anything about this segment to me in our chat, so there must be something there that he has super planned out, and I gotta wonder what the meaning behind "Master of Puppets" could be. I personally think of marionettes taking advantage of certain 'dummies' but I digress. Ulti's got to have a certain reasoning behind making the segment start off this way, and only time will tell and resolve everything.
Hopefully I've presented myself in a persuasive manner, because I've just been getting tired of all these people bashing on something before letting the comic give itself a chance.
Thanks for reading.
March 30th, 2013, 5:51 pmReply
Well, how about everything, expect the fact of author and evil author battling?
But wasn't the intention here to bring up criticism? And not eveything is clear now.
@Air Man1 21:
You added so many things I agree clearly, thank you, you have a great point here.
I know you said you didn't read everything from this page and you are aware of that, but I feel like you really needed to before saying anything about this.
Read Air Man1 21's comment, it explains clearly why TitF was illogical. A story, no matter what, needs basic logic, something that TitF lacks completely. Like I said before "...What? So, the obvious thing is to do that, but nobody does it? What kind of forced plot we have here? Geez, I can see this will be terrible.", the lack of logic here isn't based on opinion, it's based on facts of making a verisimilar plot, something that can actually happen in a fictional world.
And I said I'm probably overreacting about something that hasn't even started, but hey, the way it started helped me a lot to think it won't be good. Using something cliché to come up with something interesting is kind of hard. I want to see it happen, then.
(Ok maybe I'm still overreacting but I think it will be the only time I'll be able to go wild and honest like that. I'm not convinced yet. And I'm still waiting for replies.)
March 30th, 2013, 6:46 pmReply
@Gigi19972010: "A story, no matter what, needs basic logic..."
Is this some unwritten rule that each and every author of everything ever absolutely must follow? I'm sorry, but the way you word this is so completely objective.
I feel like you gotta be more open-minded. There isn't any precious logic in Tear in the Fabric? I dunno, the author appeared personified as a character previously in the comic as seen in To the Tower. He even was shown to have the ability to freeze time, so we know that stuff like that isn't entirely out of the question. Tear in the Fabric expands upon those ideas by creating a story of a second personality trait of the author suddenly messing everything up, and since the author was shown to have supernatural powers in To the Tower, that must mean the alter ego harnesses such abilities as well! Why is this all possible? Because this is the *author* we're talking about. The author writes what happens in a story, making literally anything possible. That's what was being represented in Tear in the Fabric.
And like I said earlier: Tear in the Fabric is "... a fun segment, not to be taken very seriously, and there's a reason why there aren't any major plot points in it."
March 30th, 2013, 7:04 pmReply
I think one of the main illogicality issues with Tear in the Fabric is the fact that it started out looking like a regular arc, a sort of Kirby's Epic Yarn related story (supported by the "Fabric" in the chapter title), and then turned into an author character arc. Centering an arc around an author character is never a good idea in a comic with a stable plot, which seems to be what this comic is. I'm not saying it's a bad comic because of this, as I'm sure plenty of other people here are trying to say as well, but it's just a bad plot-based-comic thing. I'm pretty sure I'm describing things a bit wrong here, but the gist of it is that such a major author insert doesn't work in a comic like this.Gigi19972010,
March 30th, 2013, 7:18 pmReply
It's just obvious that the characters' actions must, huh, make sense.
I already made it clear that the logical problem with TitF isn't the author poweres themselves, or else I'd be contradicting myself. I said it was the fact that the extremely obvious actions aren't taken, with no explanation, it happens like that just 'cause. Like I said "...What? So, the obvious thing is to do that, but nobody does it?", meaning Ulti defeating Etam. The whole segment loses its fun when you realize that the whole thing that happened was forced. That's why I keep telling that I find out this segment extremely useless, since I really can't see it happening unless you consider that, like you said once, it's a fun segment, not to be taken very seriously. But my problem about this is that this goes in the opposite way the whole comic goes, as I'm pretty sure it's meant to be taken seriously and not as a joke. So, say, what's the reason for doing something completely different from the main course of the comic, instead of a spin-off or something like that? Because I don't really see a reason for TitF existing like it happened in this comic.
March 30th, 2013, 8:30 pmReply
@Gigi19972010: I really have nothing else to say than to just stop considering canon. And like I said multiple times, there's a reason why there aren't any major plot points! I really have no idea why you keep going off about why the segment isn't relevant to any other part of the comic. Simply put, it was made for fun. Not worrying about anything. I thought it was a fun, silly break from the norm and I liked it for that, not the relevance. Don't consider it canon if it offends you this much, even Ulti downright said that.Mental Man (Guest),
March 30th, 2013, 8:44 pmReply
I think I should point out sonething(s) that bother me just a little. I somewhat opted out of this comic when cameo rules got strict. I know at one point there was some dude who tried to make 14-15 comments in a row to meet the standards. I don't blame you for trying to make it more "secure" or have a better way to accept cameo requests since a little incident of a guy who raged when you wouldn't add features on the sprites (That probably isn't the reason, and you probably don't remember what I'm talking about so in that instance just forget I mentioned it), but all the requirements seem a bit much and I agree with the whole "evil author duplicate erase" idea. I used to anticipate updates, but I feel like the series is losing it's touch just a SMIDGE. It can easily be fixed, but it just doesn't feel like it's where it should be right now.
- A fan since The First Mission
March 30th, 2013, 9:44 pmReply
Sheesh! Can we all chill a bit in here? Some of you are over thinking things a LOT, and not giving Ulti enough credit/expecting too much from him! It is just a simple comic, for pete's sake! TitF was meant to just be silly, heck, this whole comic is silly sometimes! Sure it has an underlining plot, but it still is allowed to have jokes from time to time! And Judging a whole chapter by the first few pages? Guh...really! I've been Ulti's friend for a while now, and try to keep up to date reading his comic, and I really think some of you are over-thinking things...Gigi19972010,
March 30th, 2013, 9:50 pmReply
It doesn't offend me, it just... Pisses me off, for some reason. I wish I knew why. I wish I knew exactly why I just can't forget about it from now on. I can come up with a possibility, but I'm not sure, and I don't wanna talk about it... Let's just finish this madness I created for no logical reason. I just... Sometimes don't even understand myself.
Thanks for repeating the same thing over and over again and making me more depressed than I am now. I'm so aware of my stupidness, you don't have to repeat it.
March 31st, 2013, 10:11 amReply
"I am saying what is wrong
Not what is right"
~I don't really know either
click clack moo i'm a cow that types
April 1st, 2013, 12:23 pmReply
TITF was actually my favorite segment,so stop
saying it was bad! Sheesh.
April 1st, 2013, 3:16 pmReply
April 3rd, 2013, 12:00 pmReply
My eyes...they hurt from all this...can we all just agree that going on about this anymore is kinda pointless and not the main topic with was presented on this comic? Cause we have just drifted in 5 different directions.The Legendary Sky Kirby (Guest),
June 8th, 2013, 5:23 pmReply
I'M REALLY GETTIN' TIRED OF ALL THIS! *transforms into Dinosaur Sky Kirby and uses all possible Super Abilities*Kitie the power kirby (Guest),
October 19th, 2013, 9:15 amReply
SO MANY WORDSGuest,
January 4th, 2014, 12:31 amReply
I tired reading,SO MUCH WORDS!1ce_k1d,
January 18th, 2014, 1:58 pmReply
@Gigi19972010: Explain "logically" the anatomy of Kirby.Kirby64 (Guest),
August 7th, 2014, 4:56 pmReply